in five employers saying the outcome of the presidential election will impact their hiring plans for next year. and someone here says, this is why. >> you know the phrase you always use, obama and biden want to raise taxes by a trillion dollars, guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all of that money going to the super wealthy. >> so, are promises of massive tax hikes, taxing the jobs market? hi, everyone, i'm brenda buttner, this is bulls and bears, here they are, bulls and bears this week, gary b smith, tobin smith, jonas max ferris, along with julian epstein and larry, talk about future tax hikes, holding back a jobs recovery? >> that's right, that's right, brenda. well, you know, certainly for consumers that are work being that have 401(k) plans they may be feeling more confident these days, but their employers don't share the optimism. they're worried what's ahead and what's ahead are future tax increases, for small business owners still, these are people that own delis and dry c